tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22055982.post8021941563226255094..comments2024-03-16T02:39:39.781-07:00Comments on eLearning Technology: Blogging Inside or Outside the Corporate FirewallTony Karrerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15408035995182843336noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22055982.post-48401377967472043472007-06-11T06:06:00.000-07:002007-06-11T06:06:00.000-07:00Cristina, I think we are on the same page. While ...Cristina, I think we are on the same page. While a corporation may provide the tools, some of them, e.g., a blog, should be seen publicly. Of course, if the tool is provided by the corporation, then the corporation will control the content after the person leaves. Which is likely not optimal for the individual, but may be what corporations will be most comfortable with out of the gate.<BR/><BR/>See my more recent post:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://elearningtech.blogspot.com/2007/06/ple-pwle-discussion-contiunes-corporate.html" REL="nofollow">Discussion Continues</A>Tony Karrerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15408035995182843336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22055982.post-83866509420799784182007-06-11T03:44:00.000-07:002007-06-11T03:44:00.000-07:00Why should it go inside in the first place?Walled ...Why should it go inside in the first place?<BR/>Walled gardens as people tend to called are nothing but a reflection how intolerant the society still is to share content and let information flow in a friendly way. <BR/>I am all for opening areas, where our personal learning gets complemented and enhanced by others, who for several reasons end up interacting and contributing to one another's PWLE. Isn't that the real and the healthy earning environment we should all be looking for?<BR/><BR/>Just my 2 cents...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22055982.post-84465098335129971222007-06-09T11:38:00.000-07:002007-06-09T11:38:00.000-07:00Well I have to admit that this conversation frustr...Well I have to admit that this conversation frustrates me a little bit. I think that all people have a PLE just as Stephen, Jay Cross and others have said. Nothing new there even if it's only a cell phone and TV. I also think that the explosion of Web 2.0 tools has created incentive for many of us to move much of that PLE online and at the same time add the PWLE part as well. Companies used to own the PWLE because it was on their computers, network etc., but now that it's online the genie will be out of the bottle. The PWLE will be more the responsibility of the learner and will also be more the property of the learner except where intellectual property rights are concerned. Maybe this PLE/PWLE gets taught/encouraged from within many environments (school, work, non-profits) as a way to promote a good life much in the way we treat health issues.Mark Prasatikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00665866122654990145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22055982.post-47349255398570416142007-06-08T08:02:00.000-07:002007-06-08T08:02:00.000-07:00Hmm. I'm worried about the labelling of the variou...Hmm. I'm worried about the labelling of the various LEs. This speaks of clearcut boundaries. The separation of for-work learning from other learning. I would have trouble separating a PWLE from the rest of my life, let alone the rest of my learning. <BR/><BR/>Also, by saying that a learning environment needs to be "set up" imputes a measure of formality that I'm not sure is warranted. Because my learning journey is lifewide as well as lifelong, it existed before any formal structures were set in place - either by me or my employer. Not only does it follow me from job to job, but it follows me home, and to university and to church and behind the mic at band practice and and and....<BR/><BR/>The concept of a formalised PLE (or PWLE or PXLE) speaks to me more of training and less of learning. My employer might have a form of LMS which might include a space referred to as my PLE, but I don't restrict myself to it. Just as my life is bigger than my job, so my learning is bigger than any formalised environment that exists, on or offline.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22055982.post-72596648637258484892007-06-08T06:50:00.000-07:002007-06-08T06:50:00.000-07:00Based on these comments, it would seem that we sho...Based on these comments, it would seem that we should be recommending that people set up their own PWLE that is outside the firewall unless it gets forced inside. Right?Tony Karrerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15408035995182843336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22055982.post-42241626137128796462007-06-08T06:05:00.000-07:002007-06-08T06:05:00.000-07:00I think that there is certainly more and more a bl...I think that there is certainly more and more a blend of personal and work activity. I'm very much like Karyn that I have trouble distinguishing the lines. I think there are some new, really tough issues about how knowledge workers engage in social networks and online community during work, but I don't think broad characterizations and stereotypes help further the conversation. <BR/><BR/>As far as the software components of my PLE (this is my first time referring to it formally), if it is something that my company has setup they own, if I set it up I own it.Lee Kraushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04767549116709995105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22055982.post-85414273530575005972007-06-08T03:29:00.000-07:002007-06-08T03:29:00.000-07:00I've wrestled with this one quite a lot in various...I've wrestled with this one quite a lot in various guises in various posts. However, as I commented on Stephen's post, I categorically do not see my learning environment as being associated with my job - it's MY learning environment, it's about ME. <BR/><BR/>But the issue of boundaries, and ownership has been one I have revisted from time to time on my blog. I don't have lines around my work, my home, my studies, my blog, my faith, my hobbies. It's all just one thing: my life. The corporation does see lines, though, and they probably think I colour over the lines in my picture book. We have had a few minor headbumps over this so far, but I suspect a major one might be on the cards!<BR/><BR/>I think there are bound to be more and more of us caught in this conflict of agendas going forward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22055982.post-39391722056197612852007-06-07T19:59:00.000-07:002007-06-07T19:59:00.000-07:00Tony I understand where where Stephen is coming fr...Tony I understand where where Stephen is coming from since I have created my personal learning environment without the prompting or assistance of my company. And...I created it because of work, not to do personal things even though I do that too. Most adult learning comes in the context of the work we do and therefore the promotion of the concept of PLE's will occur in the context of work as well. Ownership of content will be determined by the rules of engagement where we work.Mark Prasatikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00665866122654990145noreply@blogger.com